[Demosthenes] Ok next point. Bilbo’s line “you have won the mountain. is that not enough?”
[Demosthenes] this seems linked to the mountain being pulled apart by the dwarves
[butterfly] I’m gonna say no…
[miriel] what more could he possibly want?
[perry] it’s a voice over, so hard to tell where it comes in?
[jenniearcheo] What is with the falling smashing statues?!
[ashwise] I like how Bilbo is addressing thorin’s greed
[butterfly] He wants to keep all the gold?
[smaugth3drag0n] Could this be part of the same conversation or even the next line after Bilbo talks to Thorin about his promise?
[AzogTheDefiler] I think they demolish that statue to build that barricade
[elentari3018] i really liked that line-he serves as the better conscience and that is compatible to what he feels in the books
[SMAUGG] thats the point
[jenniearcheo] Is that part of building a barricade?
[miriel] or is it on the topic of refusing gold to laketown?
[butterfly] Probably part of the “promise” scene
[Demosthenes] I think the implication is that the mountain is not enough for Thorin.
[perry] home is not enough
[ashwise] he wants more
[Demosthenes] and yes i think it *is* part of building the barricade
[thatJustin] Thorin always said it was about reclaiming homeland – nothing about the riches
[butterfly] brb, guys
[smaugth3drag0n] Such large pieces of Erebor crashing below reminds me of the Minas Tirith battle where pieces of the city were either falling or being used as weapons against the armies.
[Demosthenes] This is more of a defence though
[jenniearcheo] Me too, SMAUGG
[thatJustin] Thorin decides not to share with Laketown after their loss and everyone’s like c’mon dude
[jenniearcheo] ack
[Demosthenes] i believe
[perry] so, the barricade would need to be built – at what point? After Bard speaks to him?
[Demosthenes] Before Bard surely. because the barricade is in place at that point.
[SmaugInverted] Good night everyone…
[AzogTheDefiler] Maybe when he learns Thranduil is coming
[Demosthenes] Causality and all.
[perry] I don’t think the Laketown people are worried about the riches at this point.
[gothmog] i do
[miriel] after they get news – delivered by fili/kili/bofur instead of by ravens?
[gothmog] how else are they going to rebuild their town
[elentari3018] would they get the news from fili and kili and bofur that quickly?
[smaugth3drag0n] But Perry, it really does not matter at this point. Thorin already gave them a promise that he seems to be relenting on rather quickly.
[Demosthenes] Ok, and Thorin;s reply “now, we defend it.”
[elentari3018] faster than when the elves and Bard get there?
[thatJustin] Thorin watches Laketown burn and he knows they’ll be coming to Erebor looking for shelter and restitution
[Demosthenes] Is that actually to Bilbo?
[Bofur] whats the topic now ?
[ashwise] now we defend it
[AzogTheDefiler] We defend it against Thranduil who has no claim to a single coin in there
[perry] It depends, building their town, about how much time has passed.
[smaugth3drag0n] The look and feel of Thorin at this point is so different from the Thorin we saw at the Hidden Door, even after the sun set. There is certainly a dark change on him already.
[Demosthenes] Ok, and Thorin;s reply “now, we defend it.” [– to whom is Thorin speaking? It seems as though he has resolved his “earlier” doubt
[elentari3018] to the whole dwarf company
[jenniearcheo] There we see the parapet with the turned square angular wall
[smaugth3drag0n] This must be the dwarves.
[perry] I think he is speaking to them all.
[elentari3018] and after Bard and elves came to ask him to relent
[Demosthenes] elentari3018: that seems entirely possible. Not just to bilbo then?
[jenniearcheo] I assume he’s replying to Bilbo’s question
[smaugth3drag0n] Is this when they put their new armor on, possibly?
[Demosthenes] jennie: i wonder if that’s a red herring 🙂
[jenniearcheo] They do appear to be in armor at this point
[elentari3018] to Bilbo and all the dwarves?
[Demosthenes] yes it could be.
[jenniearcheo] Herring is a terrible building material. Not very strong, and eventually smelly.
[Demosthenes] And … at the same time we see all the dwarves lined up. And Thorin wearing the crown of Erebor.
[smaugth3drag0n] Thorin sees either the battle or the aftermath of the battle in Dale and knows the enemy is approaching.
[perry] so, then some has passed after the destruction of Laketown, be cause they had time to make armor.
[jenniearcheo] Herringbone, on the other hand
[butterfly] Right, where are we?
[gothmog] their would be armour in erebor
[miriel] new topic?
[Demosthenes] Two shots: the dwarves on the parapet, the elves of mirkwood lined up
[Demosthenes] bows ready to fire
[jenniearcheo] Flashed on the elven army with Thranduil on Warmoose with Bard by his side.
[miriel] same moment?
[perry] so men and elves ready to attack
[gothmog] those elves were bad cgi but the elves look ready to lay seige to erebor
[Demosthenes] Conflict among “allies”
[DuBekar] I wonder why they end up joining the battle in entirely different armor. Perhaps the “regal armor” is considered tainted by the dragon because it was found in the treasure hoard? *shrugs*
[smaugth3drag0n] Behind the army, you can see that Dale looks charred.
[perry] is it dale or laketown?
[Papagianni] bad CGI indeed
[Demosthenes] Dale i think
[gothmog] all the elves look the same
[jenniearcheo] It’s not clear at that moment why Thranduil & co. are being aggressive, until you get his next “claim something of mine” line.
[AzogTheDefiler] So we have the man of the lake who are in dire need of help and Thranduil, who just wants to claim the treasure because of his greed, he has no claim to it
[jenniearcheo] He always liked the white blinb
[gothmog] just same cgi elf copied and pasted haha
[jenniearcheo] bling
